Alice in Wonderland is not about Drugs (But it is trippy as hell)

Alice in Wonderland is not about Drugs (But it is trippy as hell)


Alice in Wonderland isn’t about drugs. Now, I know that may come as a surprise to
some people. It’s pretty standard internet fair to point
at Alice, with all the trippy visuals and the mushrooms and the Hookah caterpillar,
and declare that it was REALLY all about drugs this whole time, oh ho ho, and Disney made
a movie about it! But it’s not. It’s not about drugs. I want to talk about Alice’s Adventures
in Wonderland and Through the Looking Glass a little bit today, what they are really about,
where this idea of them being about drugs came from, and why I find it to kind of be
bullshit. So, Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland is
an 1865 novel written by English novelist Charles Lutwidge Dodgson under the pseudonym
Lewis Carrol. The sequel, Through the Looking Glass, was
published in 1871. I’m going to focus mainly on these two original
books, and not the dozens and dozens and dozens of adaptations and remakes that exist. For the record, both books are in the public
domain, so it’s very easy to find pdf copies of them on the internet. Almost every movie version of Alice, including
the Disney one, splices together elements and plot points from both of the books, rather
than simply adapting one story or the other. It’s not particularly important to know
which characters and events happen in each, since they are very often published as a pair
anyway. But we’re going to have a quick overview. – In Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland, Alice
is a young girl who is in the garden of her home playing with her cat Dinah when she sees
a white rabbit in a waistcoat run past, apparently late to an appointment. She follows the rabbit down the rabbit hole
and thus into wonderland. What follows is a quintessential example of
literary nonsense, filled with word play, puns, and absurdity as Alice works her way
through Wonderland. She eats an odd bite of cake and drinks a
potion which change her size. She cries so hard she creates a sea. She recites some poetry she had to memorize
for school buts gets it all wrong. She meets a mouse that won’t answer her
call in English, so she tries talking to it in French. She wonders if this assumed French mouse came
over with William the Conqueror, because Alice doesn’t know much about when things in history
happened. They reach the shore where other animals are. The mouse then gives a lecture on william
the conqueror and the animals agree to a Caucus race to dry off (Because Alice doesn’t know
what a caucus actually is.) Alice meets the Caterpillar, who seems to
speak in riddles, correcting her grammar and not making sense. She meets the Duchess, who yells a lot and
seems to ignore her baby. She meets the Cheshire Cat, who again, doesn’t
make a lot of sense, and then the Mad Hatter and March Hare. More and more riddles. She plays a VERY silly game of croquet with
the Queen of Hearts where the rules don’t make sense and the Queen cheats a lot. She meets a Mock Turtle (a pun on Mock Turtle
soup, apparently Alice thought Mock Turtles were an animal). Then the world’s silliest court scene, where
everything is unfair and doesn’t make sense, and then Alice goes back home, waking up as
if from a dream. Set presumably about half a year later, in
Through the Looking Glass, Alice is playing inside the house with two cats, Dinah’s
kittens, when she contemplates the mirror in the room. She finds that she is able to walk through
the mirror and back into Wonderland. She discovers a mostly nonsense poem, Jabberwocky,
which can only be read if you hold it up to a mirror. She also finds that the chess pieces in the
room have come to life. What follows is another adventure in mostly
absurdity, though if you know how, you can actually use Looking Glass as a step by step
guide for a real chess game. Alice plays the part of one of the white pawns. She wanders through the garden of living flowers,
meets Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum, talks to Humpty Dumpty, and eventually makes all the
way across the “board” and becomes a queen herself. The Red and White queens throw her a party,
and then confuse her with riddles and wordplay. This actually results in Alice physically
confronting the Red Queen and “Capturing her”, putting the Red King into “Checkmate”
unintentionally, and thus, she wakes up in her arm chair back home having won the game. Quick recommendation, if you want to get all
of the little wordplay and puns and references in Alice and Looking Glass, I recommend the
Annotated Alice by Martin Gardner. It’s awesome. –
These books are pretty strange. So, if not a psychedelic reflection about
a weird acid trip, or whatever, what’s up with these books? Why are they so weird? Well, Carrol said he wrote the book after
he and a friend spent a day on a river trip with the 3 young daughters of Henry Liddell
in 1862. During their journey, Carrol entertained the
girls with a made up nonsense story about a girl named Alice. Alice Liddell was so entranced that she told
Carrol he should publish it. And so he did. He spent a few years refining the story before
it was finally published, and the real Alice got her copy. So on the surface, it’s just that- a silly
story meant to amuse children, a celebration of imagination and childhood silliness. But there are some underlying themes in these
books. The encounters Alice has have a sort of pattern
to them- Adults in the books, whether they are the Queen of Hearts or the White Queen,
the Duchess or the Hatter, often speak in riddles. They make up rules that don’t make sense
and refuse to explain them. The white rabbit is obsessed with never being
late, and much of the word play or silliness comes from Alice not understanding adult or
unfamiliar concepts (like the Mock Turtle or a Caucus race.) And so the books become a very silly exploration
of how a child, viewing the adult world, might feel confused and lost. Wonderland is Adulthood cloaked in familiar
childhood clothes. Nursery Rhymes and game board pieces doing
a fumbling pantomime of adulthood, discussing mathematical concepts and latin grammar, through
the eyes of a child who doesn’t understand it. There are many things that can be pulled from
Alice- ideas of innocence, of escapism, of identity and sense of self, of intentionally
bucking order in favor of disorder. But none of those things are drugs. (Sidenote: There is a whole other issue about
Carrol’s….relationship with the Liddell daughters, and his…fondness for young girls
in general. This is a whole separate debate, and it gets
kinda messy with contemporary views of childhood and adulthood and whether there was anything…untoward
about his fondness for them. But that’s really not what we’re talking
about today. ) –
So, why do people think this is a story about drugs? Carrol wasn’t known for opium use, or even
heavy drinking. He had no exposure to psychedelics (magic
mushrooms wouldn’t be discovered by Europeans until 1955) So why? I think the easiest answer is that people
want stories to make sense. I want stories to make sense. I spent a lot of money going to college to
get a degree in “Making stories make sense.” We want there to be a reason that things happen
in stories, and so when a story feels as random and silly and surreal as Alice, we want to
figure out what it’s REALLY about. This is kind of the underlying idea behind
surrealism in general- creating art and meaning out of the absurd and random images of dreams
and unreality. [Side note, there is an edition of Alice with
illustrations by Salvador Dali, which is…amazing.] And thanks to the culture of the 1960s and
1970s, there is a heavy association between reality-bending images and drug use, especially
hallucinogens. And depending on which adaptation you are
looking at, some movies really play up this trippy psychedelic aesthetic for Alice. But I think there’s another level to this
one, and one that I find much more grating. Alice’s Adventures in Wonderland is a story
for children, especially for girls. And there is a certain segment of the population,
especially among young adults on the internet, who really seem to enjoy taking things aimed
at children and declaring NO, this thing isn’t for kids, it’s actually FOR ME, and slapping
an edgy dark interpretation on top of it, however sloppily. Fan theories like…Ash is in a coma all along,
or all the Rugrats are dead and Angelica is just imagining them, and…yeah, a huge slice
of the Brony fandom declaring that adult men are the real audience, they aim at appropriating
and co-opting child media for adult consumption And there’s something about that which leaves
a sour taste in my mouth over all. –
I don’t think there’s anything inherently bad about reimagining child stories in more
adult ways. But I do think it somewhat misses the point
when people begin to insist that these mature reimaginings are the CORRECT or more valid
interpretation, especially if they lead to the exclusion of children from that media
space. With Alice in particular, I think the story
gives adult readers a chance to empathize with children, not as dolls or objects of
cuteness, but as people interacting with a confusing and strange world as they grow up. It is an opportunity to revisit childhood,
with all it’s familiar characters and uncertainty and wonder, and rather than corrupt that story,
I think it should be embraced. I’m going to leave you with the end of Alice’s
Adventures in Wonderland. Alice’s adult sister, having heard her story,
lays back, and herself begins to dream, of Wonderland and of her sister Alice. And This is what it says, “Lastly, she pictured
to herself how this same little sister of hers would, in the after-time, be herself
a grown woman; and how she would keep, through all her riper years, the simple and loving
heart of her childhood: and how she would gather about her other little children, and
make their eyes bright and eager with many a strange tale, perhaps even with the dream
of Wonderland of long ago: and how she would feel with all their simple sorrows, and find
a pleasure in all their simple joys, remembering her own child-life, and the happy summer days.” And that is what Wonderland is about. Thanks for watching this video! I’ll see yall down in the comments, so if
you have any questions, feedback, or suggestions, head on over. If you enjoyed listening to this queer millennial
feminist with a BA in English ramble on for a while, feel free to subscribe.

71 comments

  1. Really great video! I always kind of got disillusioned by so many people taking this film and making it super dark. To me it always was a silly and colorful movie. I'm glad to know that is not the case.
    I will say that I'm ok with people putting their own twist or remix content as long as it doesn't claim such a take as the only valid interpretation.
    Is there a list of topics you choose from and later develop or do you think of an idea and follow it through? It'd be cool to see what future topics you would make videos about!

  2. I liked your brief dissection of adult fandom appropriating children's entertainment for themselves. Do you plan to delve further into the topic (you kinda covered broadly most of it here tbh, just wondering if you had any more thoughts on it)?

  3. While I don't disagree with you about the tendency of the modern internet for adult (mostly men) to appropriate children's (mostly women's) media, I can't say I agree that Alice's Adventures In Wonderland being a part of that trend, at least to when most seem to attribute it to starting – As in, I distinctly remember this sort of discussion prior for Alice in Wonderland to the modern internet – late 90s, early 00s; when I was in secondary but yet out of sixth form and in college.

    Do you think this is because, as a trend, the appropriation of children's media as really being for adults is older than what some assume it to be, or are the older 'It's really about drugs' examples something else going on? (The Magic Roundabout being another example of a piece of children's media claimed to 'really be about drugs' when it absolutely isn't prior to the modern internet – by the mid 90s at the latest)?

  4. Definitely loved this analysis! Spot on about adults coopting kids stuff. Like at this point people do it just to be cool and edgy, but its really not, it just ruins it, and helps no one.
    Excellent video!

  5. I honestly thought at first that Wonderland and Looking Glass were child fever dreams, and it seems I wasn't entirely far off! I would like to know more about how you feel a portion of the brony fandom coops the show to the point of excluding children. I can imagine how there would be an issue of conventions were Adults Only, but thankfully all that I know keep the cons kid friendly for all ages to enjoy.

    Not saying you are wrong, I just want to know what examples you see that leads you to this conclusion :).

  6. Thank you so much for this video! Sadly, I have never been able to enjoy anything to do with Alice's adventures in Wonderland because the Disney movie made me feel really, really anxious and seriously scared as a kid and I don't seem to have the determination to read the books now 🙁
    However, I'm so happy to learn about it and have someone saying it's not about drugs. Partly, because I never thought it felt like a story about drugs, rather one about confusion and feeling isolated as a kid. I guess that's how I felt as a little girl while watching it.
    I also really love that you "took back" the story to the children. It's really upsetting to see every story aimed to them or treating innocence themes being ripped off.
    Have a nice day!

  7. I told someone one time that I felt the book was precisely about what you say here, a metaphore about the confusion of children when faced with the confusing adult world, and they told me that is was really about mathematics. Looking in the internet it seems many people support that idea. Also there is a theory going around that Lewis had Alice syndrome in his childhood and that is why there are so many parts on the story where Alice becomes bigger or smaller of what she is.

    What do you think about these ideas?

  8. This was such a good video. It always made me kind of mad when people said that Alice was really about drugs, because it's such a simplistic view of these fantastic stories. Like, they don't even try to look below the surface and just go: 'Oh, it has some weird imagery, it MUST be about drugs!'
    I also really liked the point about Bronies and I completely agree with you. But, do you think they get more criticism because they're trying to take this show away from its intended audience, or because they're grown men watching and enjoying a show for girls? I get the feeling they often like to see themselves as pariahs, being hated for enjoying a Thing, so do you think most of them are even aware of the argument you're presenting?

  9. In addition to being a novelist, Dodgson was also a mathematician and logician, and I had heard from a Math/Programming lecturer that not only is it strange, but it's intentionally formally illogical.

  10. u make some p good points ^.^ although personally i don't really think that people claiming that aiwl is about drugs are as toxic as bronies but there are definitely similar patterns 🙂

  11. I really like all your videos by the way, you're the best.
    Anyways, I agree with everything you said in this video, and this thing that people appropriate children media or gives a edgy dark theory about these things and themes really bugs me too. And yes, I think the Carrol relatioship with the Liddell children quite unsettling too.

  12. I've heard that the sections of Alice growing and shrinking is a metaphor for puberty, which is certainly one of the anxieties of children at the age; the whole growing up, adulthood thing. It's interesting

  13. THANNK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO LOVEEEEE IT. so glad you made this and i totes appreciate your whole breaking down the fale adult theories of childhood stories thing, cause i so agree. Have you read 'Heartless' by Marissa Meyer, i think you'd really like it. Also I am a queer millenial feminst with a BA in english, so yep:) also loved your shakespeare video, can't wait to see what else you make.

  14. Oh god, I am so fucking SICK of this entire 'surreal fairy tales are DRUGS DRUGS DRUGS'. I have grown up on so many nonsense stories and nonsense cartoons and nonsense songs, Alice in the Wonderland was merely the most famous one. And like… none of them were abour drugs OR FOR ADULTS IN ANY KIND OF WAY. "With marmelade in his beard, to his father, a bear swam in a frying-pan on top of curly porridge". Like… it's funny because it doesn't make sense. That's how children's sense of humor works AND THAT'S ALL THERE IS TO IT.

    And don't even start me on the EDGY coma/dead/dreaming theories that don't only plague children's media but literally everything ever, and the only point of them seems to be to say 'this story isn't actually real' WHICH NO DUH GENIUS IT'S FICTION WE KNOW THAT ALREADY????

    (not to mention, in the books, it's EXPLICITLY a dream already. Dreams don't make sense. BREAKING NEWS)

    Thank you for making this video <3

  15. This was a very interesting video, and I haven't thought of Alice in Wonderland like that before. I greatly enjoyed this. If you haven't read it, you might be interested in reading "The Mystery of Lewis Carroll' by Jenny Woolf. It's an examination of Lewis Carroll himself and the author goes into sources other books haven't looked into (like his bank accounts and such) and explores a lot of questions we have about the guy like his relationship with the 'real' Alice and such. https://www.amazon.com/Mystery-Lewis-Carroll-Discovering-Thoughtful/dp/031267371X I just thought you may find it interesting as well.

  16. on one hand it's clear that the stories are not intended to be about drugs, but death of the author and all that. Jefferson Airplane did not steal from young girls when they wrote White Rabbit.

  17. I challenge you to watch this on lsd and you will 100% understand that the book itself is not about drugs but the 1950's movie is HUGELY influenced by the largest moving drug at the time aside from Marijuana.. you will COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND that an acid trip using the philosophy of the movies as a direction of focus you will learn a lot about yourself and the real world. example. once the clock is broken she is done focusing on what no longer seems important. such as time and the sense of self.

  18. Great video! And great job ruining the dreams of internet assholes who think they're so smart "because like, Alice in Wonderland is so clearly about a drug trip, how do you not get that?"

  19. I don't think it's wrong to associate it with drugs anyone who's done acid can relate it makes you feel like a child again and the world seems new and huge and scary sometimes it's a feeling I haven't got since I was a child. It's a lot like dreaming but lasts so long kind of like dreams but almost like you're in control or at least steering. And more so people I relate acid to Alice I never thought a kids story was about drugs but you have to admit it does kind of appeal to that kind of audience. I think Jefferson airplane did it best relating acid to Alice in wonderland not the other wait around

  20. Also one more thing people have been doing magic mushrooms and other trippy drugs since before history was recorded so I don't think it's fair to assume the author had never done em and there's no way it inspired his stories, same goes for the movie Walt Disney definitely was making some drug references I mean she eats mushrooms and shit

  21. Wow! This is very informative. How many years were you in college? What was your degree again? Oh, and was this scripted?

  22. naw bitch this is about acid and shrooms, if you have ever done acid u would understand why its about acid and shrooms, u will be suprised how much things are inspired by psychadelics

  23. The Seven Sisters of Sleep by Mordecai Cubitt Cooke, which includes information on the psychotropic effects of "magic mushrooms" and other narcotics was published in 1860. It was considered rather scandalous and was widely read at the time.

  24. Your videos are very interesting, i would love to hear your view and analyzation of 2 of my favoret games : American Mcgee Alice… and also of Alice Madness Returns, would love to know what you think about them… =)

  25. thank you, everyone seems to forget that it was written from a child's perspective, for children. which is not to say there's not a whole rabbit hole of depth beneath it :3

  26. I'm working on a fractured fairytale novel based on Alice's Adventures in Wonderland, so I thought I would pop in and see what I could learn from this video. Your recommendation of The Annotated Alice is very helpful! Thank you so much!

  27. Thank you… thank you so so so so so so so so so so so so very much I needed this very much I need someone to set this record straight

  28. since I learned it was written by a pedophile who seemed to have a relationship with a very young female (age of concept was lower back then, no idea does that make any difference.) I have since tried to look into it with the eye of, does this thing mean something, is this symbolic of something. are magical food and drink symbolic of something, most definitely.

  29. Holy shit, listening to Alice in wonderland through the looking glass now makes so much sense because I’ve been trying to find this obscure 80’s cartoon movie that follows that exact plot…

  30. Finally! Ive been trying to back this story up and how its NOT about drugs to my friends for years!!! Urgh, theyre idiots who never read the book..

  31. The original books and stories weren't about drugs, but the Disney movie subtly references weed, edibles, mushrooms and cocaine.

  32. Thank you for putting together your thoughts on these books and movies so well! Alice In Wonderland is one of my favorite fictional stories of all time and it has always made me angry that others think it is about drugs when it is about all of the things you mentioned. If it was about drugs there is no way Walt Disney would have made a movie about it to sell to children in the 1950s. There is no way that book could have been popular with Victorian children. Think about how strict those time periods were, any normal family would not have allowed that kind of literature near there home or anywhere near their kids. Same with the movies in the 1950s.

  33. Its a good metaphor for the road some take to use drugs and how we have choices and the consequences of those choices

  34. Excellent video and thank you for making it. I agree with you. I also think Lewis Carrol also felt very much like Alice at the time he wrote the books; confused and upset with a mad world of supposedly right thinking adults.

    He was a Math Professor at a time when new maths were emerging and talking about things like imaginary numbers. He HATED these new concepts and thought they were foolish and an infuriating waste of time. Some think he metaphorically displays some of these new math concepts in the things the terrible things happening to Alice.

  35. I feel like older people liking 'younger' media is fine!! just.. don't try and make it 'for you'. it's still for the kids

  36. So I know this is somewhat old but I have a complicated relationship to any version of Alice in wonderland that I'm gonna kind of word vomit (pardon the expression) into your comments.
    I have always been terrified of nearly every aspect of Disney's Alice in Wonderland and a great deal of both of the books. I distinctly remember as a younger child (I'm a fairly young teen now so I'm sure as I get older my opinions will change) finding the topsy turvy nature of wonderland to be nightmarish and horrifying rather than delightfully confusing. And yet any form of dark Alice reimagining has always left me maybe slightly disturbed but also entertained and enriched. I find the only thing I truly love from any version of Alice in Wonderland is the poem Jabberwocky which is one of the only things that in my head follows a 'sensible' narrative which makes me wonder if maybe my horror is that I am incredibly focused on stories and how I have to make sense of everything and I simply can't with Alice or maybe I'm completely wrong and it was just the imagery.

  37. I loved Alice in her books and always though was a fun way to see the crazy things that kids imagine. So I agree on that not being a drug tale, but just one of imagination. With or without meaning . Through The Looking Glass, is my favorite book.

    I think the best, adaptation?, Sequels?, is the American McGee Alice (and Alice Madness Returns). It takes the same Alice and turns her world upside down. In a different, yet same universe of a broken Alice. The games have weird characters that did exist, and new ideas. They speak in the same riddles, ones that aren't understood through the first playthrough but make a little more sense after .

  38. Awww cmon it's all in fun! Lighten up Babe! Lol
    I understand it's not about drugs, now i have to tell my friend that it isn't cause i told her it was even put my spin on it. Thank you for this video.

  39. Yea the alleged drugs reference could be coincidence just made up magic item thats edible like magic potions sont refer to drugs same way magic muchroom doesnt refer to drugs.

  40. I agree with your conclusion ! Alice on Wonderland has become such a myth it's referenced everywhere but it's important to remind us of the original meaning of the book.

  41. I appreciate your delve in adults appropriating fandom. I'm an adult, and I enjoy cartoons. But some people just make it so creepy! And now that I am a parent there are some issues. Kiddo isn't old enough to get internet exposure without guidance, but at some point she's going to google image search something and it's going to scar.

  42. alice in wonderland is about people taking lsd on a piece of a candy and then they start flipping queens and monarchy doubt me?. tell me why she is called the red queen then. and there are tons of drug abuse references and resistance movement references.

  43. Everyone has their own opinions. In my opinion it is kinda about drugs. It has so many drug refrences. Especially with Absolem.

  44. I’ll taddle on myself here: I took 2g’s of shrooms and two hits of acid and my air condition was out in the middle of July in Texas a couple of years ago. But I saw a hallucinogenic correlation to almost every plot point of the 1950’s movie adaptation. I’ll illustrate my point by list:
    >The beginning is peaceful and idealistic, nature family, life (not representative to life itself but an optimistic view of one). This represents optimism the consumer of the drug has about the potential cathartic experience. Like life it is rosey in its interpretation.

    >The white rabbit is late, he has a lab coat and he is literally going down a hole deep in the dark earth. This is a representation of how the consumer of the drug will want to get on with the trip, is anxious to react to it. So the process begins, you react and second guess if you are feeling “good” and that seed of doubt begins to grow, however fleeting the thought it should be; this idea of being “okay” is an ever present one. But you are falling down the rabbit hole nonetheless. You are starting to hallucinate both internal and the external is becoming irregular as well.

    >The locked room is the place where Alice decides what remedies she needs to help her continue on her journey with a sense of optimism (like both fitting and getting through a door). This is where the tripper decides what other chemicals or nutrients might help both help them feel at ease and satiated. Maybe its a prepared ice and fruit smoothy or maybe they are face with only being able to seek comfort in something like saltines and water. Some people smoke a cigarette, some people smoke a blunt. Some people drink the vile that make you big, others its the one that makes you small. All the while the knob (your anxiety about tripping) tells you “no, no, no, your doing doing that all wrong!”

    >SIDE NOTE:The Walrus. He is the capitalist class that commodifies the oysters of the planet rendering collapse and the assistant of the walrus is cut out. He is the working class, he is us.

    The Caterpillar is a fourth wall punch in the nuts if you are on hallucinogens. The utterance of the phrase “Who are you?” Over and over again. It is a test by fire in way, if you have an existential crisis right there then it can make the trip much harder then if you can maintain mindfulness for the duration of the trip.

    >The rabbits house. Alice gets big. Burn the house down.
    The tripper will follow “logically” that they are supposed to suppress the tripped:
    You get a BIG idea to suppress it. In response your sub-conscience does a couple barrel roles because its a drug and you can’t stop it from changing the experience of that drug. So like the good talking head that you are your gonna be burning down the house of reasonable deductive thinking. Even on a base level of tripping, you will have trouble making basic decisions. But if you are tripping out you are not gonna enjoy any silence. Yuh Dodo. (Sorry)

    >The Flowers ide of March. Et tu Petunias? The mind will betray you as much as the flowers of Wonderland. The flowers think they are good at first but don’t see her as one of them (valid, beautiful) but a weed.
    “Am I right out doing this? There are people who have tripped and seem to be having a good time almost every time, why not me?”
    “No, you are in the right state of mind man” said the spectre of that cliquish flower ring leader.
    This is reference to the point at which a person who has struggled or has trouble fully adjusting to the trip even if they find it to be an enjoyable time. Things become black and white as normal cognition in the ramping up of the trip is not possible. You can only think in terms of rejection or inclusion. “Am I the sort of person who could do this as often as I please or is this something I can’t handle without a sitter at most”.

    >The return of the caterpillar. A self medication that is rendered in the form of a potion that will make her return to some form normalcy; being a regular height.
    The tripper is about approach the peak of the trip, things are situated and needs are satiated for the most part.

    >THE CAT: A literal representation of a mysterious authorial voice coming to fuck with you while you trip. It almost acts like a breaking of the forth wall where the numerous questions that Alice ask the cat what he means, what this journey(trip) means, all mocked and jowled. Another random trail by fire. You see a confusing circumstance and you might get through but too much confusion can through your cognition to a head spin while while you trip.

    >When Alice comes across the The Mad Hatter and The Hare. Things seem very odd, they speak of unbirthday’s they make no sense and they are utterly anxious figures about the jam, the unbirthday, the twinkle of a star. Least all that rabbit letting you know tame is being wasted. This is point at which a person who is going pretty far towards the peak and is arguably as overwhelming as the come down and the serotonin depletion comes with it. You trip hard visually and now you are having trouble focusing on the present moment and accepting it, your mind might race or the visuals might be incoherent as well as the auditory. Only vague tones and might get through if you are worried about your pets doing things, if you need to use the bathroom and its a number 2. Or you have that gnawing feeling about work, college, or general relationships involved, you start to drift in and out about abstract fragmentations of thought. The jam, the time, the tea and the anxiety any person could have. You have to either accept things as they are or you don’t. Its a test by fire if you do alright.

    >The clock breaks, the hatter goes mad, you get lost.
    What was the point of doing this? Is this that fun? Am I doing it wrong? These are all normal questions to ask when tripling but the fact that she is sobbing shows you can be completely upset by the trip but its a mixed image because she does eventually leave the forest. Some have panic attacks and others just finally go take that shit and get it over with no matter how weird it is. But it all gets better. The peak is very much here.

    >THE QUEEN. She is the heart, your heart, its fleeting, like your emotions on a trip. The emotionally disordered manner of the queen and the kangaroo court is a direct representation of the of the internal illogical debate you have with yourself about “how things are” what are the vibes. On the one hand its enjoyable, entertaining, funny. But then on the other hand your trip is a anxiety ridden and confusing. Like this trial in the movie. Things are repetitive like the internal thought process of a tripper. You get it.

    >The Chase: Your comedown is shit. Its a chase to regain all the responsibilities you couldn’t handle while tripping kinda still a little in the begging so things aren’t trippy but more uncanny. You return to the optimism seen at the beginning that you wither try to trip again or that you won’t touch it again.

  45. Noce video and congratulations on your ability to explain things.
    P.S.: the original one might not be about drugs but surely the Disney one had that subplot (Disney in all its films has put and continues to put subplots that can only be understood by adults in such a way that they go to see the movie too and also in such a way that when parents bring their children to see the rilm is not boring for them so as to be sure that the families are more inclined to go to see their films, it's simple marketing and unlike how many people believe there is nothing deplorable or obscure about it)

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