Plant Medicine | Recovery Underground | The Future of Addiction


looking at the the future of recovery
another phenomenon that we’re experiencing now it’s underground and
it’s on the horizon at least in the United States is using plant medicine to
treat addiction so there’s some great studies with nicotine and psilocybin
which is the psychoactive component in magic mushrooms they’re also using
psilocybin to treat depression which often is an underlying condition of
addiction there’s also been a lot of fanfare about ayahuasca which is a
powerful psychedelic from South America that was used traditionally for either
hundreds or thousands of years and the thought behind plant medicine is to
invoke a spiritual experience and to disrupt the default Network of the brain
meaning the patterns of our thinking and feeling in such a way that people can
get a boost in breaking free from addiction something gets sort of rewired
you know in shorthand and plant medicine is becoming popular in the underground
and so if you go online you’ll find it kind of buried there amongst different
ways to to deal with addiction I’ve come across now a lot of clients who,
successfully and unsuccessfully, who have either tried or a used plant medicine to
treat addiction it’s it’s a fascinating area my own general philosophy well
if I’m speaking to a parent or potential client who’s looking for recovery and
looking for help is I don’t have a philosophy it’s whatever works the way
that I think the future of addiction is going to break down is there’s gonna be
a multiplicity of approaches and in the end I think the best parallel when
looking at the future of addiction is looking at how human beings approach
diet and so there have been all of these different diet fads you know that come
and go that huge swaths of our society and get
everybody’s own Aikido now or whatever that is where I think it’s going to go
as modern science is getting there is the question of what specific diet is
right for you so I think we’ll break away a little bit over time from an
abstinence based model meaning you can’t use any substances to understanding your
body and your neuro chemistry better and specifically what substances and foods
does your body and self react well to and what substances and food foods does
it not react well to so I think about it on a spectrum right pretty much
everybody knows that processed sugars and saturated fats really aren’t good
for anybody hardly ever right I’m sure they’re exceptions but in general you
want to stay away from that stuff on the other side you know broccoli celery
you know these things we really don’t like are pretty much healthy for
everybody unless you have some kind of you know allergy or something like that
so we have the stuff that’s pretty much healthy for everybody and pretty much
bad for everybody and then there’s a spectrum in the middle that has to do
with your own body maybe for some people red meat and the iron and red meat is
good maybe for some people it’s not right and you trying to figure that out
I think what will happen with with drugs eventually is the same kind of approach
I call it kind of the right relationship model which is pretty much for everybody
crack cocaine methamphetamine heroin is not good for your life and I think we
can all pretty much agree on that but there are a group of substances over
here and the proper set and setting that can be good for huge groups of people
and the way that I think about that is there are certain substances that narrow
our consciousness right so when you use method feta mean people use it to like
adderall was the method fat it’s similar to a methamphetamine it’s a stimulant it
helps you focus it narrows your consciousness the problem with
methamphetamine is that it narrows your consciousness and so you’re actually not
that connected to the things around you or the people around you more important
over heroin narrows our consciousness in a
different way if you’ve ever seen somebody do a large dose of heroin there
just Pat they’re just not it out so it’s not it hasn’t focused your car it’s
obliterated your consciousness and you pass out into oblivion right but they
have the same effects they’re sort of consciousness narrowing consciousness
dimming substances alcohols like that it’s a depressant and you drink alcohol
and it’s sort of like lowers your inhibitions and your consciousness which
is what we appreciate about it you know we don’t think so much and have all
those feelings of anxiety so there’s a group of substances over there that do
that they they narrow and dim consciousness that’s why we like them
there’s a group of substances in the middle you know people respond
differently to marijuana um and even you know wine or something at smaller doses
although it dims our consciousness maybe it connects you sometimes a little more
so there’s a little bit of space there in the middle which is why I think we
sort of you know have some agreement that those substances are kind of kind
of okay and then you actually have this group of substances largely in the plant
medicine world but also MDMA and other substances as well that have the
capacity to expand your consciousness and your empathy and that’s real and I
think it’s very documented that it actually kind of lets filters down and
allows you to have a wider awareness and vision and anybody who’s done MDMA knows
you have an incredible amount of empathy on MDMA and you’re rarely seeing people
fight you know gonna fistfight on the street if their own ecstasy they like
dancing together with glow sticks it’s incredible you know so I think where
it’s going is into that kind of model where people and meeting society as a
whole is figuring out what kind of substances are good for us as a whole
and in what set in what setting and how we deal with that legally and what
substances are really killing us and separating us I’m kind of optimistic
about that vision but every vision of the future is problematic and so there
are huge problems with that vision just like there are huge
problems with the way we approach drugs and alcohol in the abstinence-based
model now it’s more just looking at what’s probable right as to what’s good
I never know what’s good in a complex phenomenon

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