The six degrees | Kevin Bacon | TEDxMidwest

The six degrees | Kevin Bacon | TEDxMidwest

Translator: Velina Vateva
Reviewer: Denise RQ I want to start at the end: most of us have contemplated
our own death, who’s going to be at the funeral,
are they going to cry, stuff like that. I don’t think that’s morbid, honestly, I mean, I think it’s OK to wonder about
a world that doesn’t have us in it, but I’m an actor so the depths of my self-involvement
runs very, very deep (Laughter) and this fantasy plays out
a little differently for me. Bob Dylan once told me,
“Never drop a name.” (Laughter) I was on an airplane one time with Bruce Willis, Demi Moore,
Nicole Kidman, and Tom Cruise and all I could think was, “If this plane goes down, I’m not even
going to make the headlines.” (Laughter) So let’s say I don’t die in a crash
with bigger stars than me, and I actually get an obituary. I lately thought
it probably is going to read, “Actor Kevin Bacon, dead. No Oscars but at least he has
a game named after him.” “The six degrees of Kevin Bacon” – In case you haven’t heard of this game, the idea is that any actor, alive or dead,
can be connected to me through our work in six steps or less. I’m going to give you an example that I had to actually go
to “The oracle of Bacon” website to find because I’m good at a couple of things
but playing this game is not one of them. I randomly picked Rudolf Valentino. Rudolf Valentino – in 1922,
was in “Beyond the rocks,” I’m sure we all remember that one. He was in it with Gertrude Astor,
who did “Daddy long legs” in 1955, with James Cromwell, who was in
“Beyond all boundaries” in 2009 with me. That gives Rudolf Valentino
a Bacon number of three. (Laughter) I can pretty much guarantee
that at this point, Rudolf Valentino does not give a shit. (Laughter) So, how did this all start? In 1994, I’m minding on my own business, I’m making movies,
I’m trying to raise my family, and I don’t remember exactly
how I first heard about it, but it just set started
to seep into my life; people would come up to me and say things like, “You know, my cousin
made up a game about you,” or, “Dude, I’m so hungover, man,
I was in a bar last night… We were playing your game,
I got shitfaced, I am a mess.” I was absolutely horrified. I know it’s a cliche, but actors, behind all the muscles, and the shining white teeth,
and the low-cut dresses, it really is just masking
a lot of very, very deep, deep insecurity. So when I heard this, I thought
this was a joke at my expense. I thought I’m going to be
a laughing stock. People are basically saying, “Can you believe that this lightweight
can be connected to the greats like Laurence Olivier,
or Marlon Brando, or Meryl Streep?” And the pathetic thing is that I was actually working
with Meryl Streep at the time. Someone then told me that the guys who invented this game were
going to be on “The Howard Stern Show.” I thought to myself, “OK, that’s it; that’s the beginning
of the end of my career.” The game was invented by four college
students from Albright College which is in Reading, Pennsylvania, not too far from where I grew up
in downtown Philadelphia. They are sitting around their dorm-room
one day, one of my pictures — one of my least memorable movies, actually
is playing on a TV screen, and they say, “Maybe we can figure out
this connection thing.” So the Internet is just really starting
to explode with these ideas, and it moves from Albright College
to the web and takes off. I’m in the middle of promoting a film,
I can’t remember which one, and I get an offer to be
on a new MTV night time talk show called The Jon Stewart Show, and I come
to find out that the Kevin Bacon guys – which is what they are now being called,
The Kevin Bacon guys – are also booked on the same show. I think to myself,
“I’m not doing this show. I am going to be the punchline
of an hour-long joke.” I was furious; but I stopped
and I said to myself, “Sometimes, you have to confront,
you have to confront your demons. Sometimes, you have to face the beast.” So I said, “I’m going to get in, I’m going to look these guys
in the eyes, I’m going to say, ‘Listen, fellows: get another patsy, OK? There’s Kevin Spacey, there’s
Kevin Costner, there’s Kevin Kline.” (Laughter) “Find somebody else.” I go into the Green Room,
and here they come, and I was completely
and totally disarmed. They were nervous, they were smart,
they were funny, they were cool, all these things I didn’t expect. I left that place,
and I thought to myself, “Well, that’s it. It’s over.
I’m cool. It’s not going to last. In three months, nobody is going to be talking
about “The six degrees of Kevin Bacon.” (Laughter) It just had this incredible hang time. People would start to come up to me
on the subway and literally go, “Zero! Zero! Zero! Zero!” (Laughter) The Onion had a headline that said, “Kevin Bacon connected to Osama Bin Laden
in six steps or less.” There were articles about
politics, and sports, and all kinds of stuff:
science, mathematics. A few years down the line, the planes fried flied
into the World Trade Center, and I go to pick up
my little girl, way too early, and I see the fear in her eyes. We go to war, and everywhere I look, man, it’s like turmoil, and sickness, and… A family member is diagnosed with cancer, another friend dies of addiction. and I just feel completely overwhelmed,
and I say to myself, “You have to do more,
you have to figure out a way to do more, giving some money over here,
voting over here, showing up at things,
doing PSAs, whatever.” I open up the refrigerator,
and there’s Paul Newman; and he’s staring at me
from a jar of tomato sauce. (Laughter) And I think to myself, “That’s amazing. I love Paul Newman,
I love him as an actor, but I love what he did with his time,
his time on this planet. He liked to make salad dressing,
and he liked to make tomato sauce, and 300 million dollars later, it’s still this juggernaut for charity.” And I thought, “What do I —
do I have any? I’m no Paul Newman, but do I have
anything that is branded with me?” And somehow, the Footloose Foundation
just didn’t feel right. (Laughter) And then I said, “Well, wait a second,
wait a second – six degrees.” So I ran to the computer,
and I typed in ‘, ‘ and it’s a real estate website. Then I went, “No, that’s not it,
I need ‘’.” I go, and it’s available;
If you want it just call these guys. I was, “Wow, I don’t know how to do it.
What do I have to do to get a website?” So I call my buddy Willie
who was a little better at this, he goes in, access my broker,
3,500 dollars later, I own I’ve no idea what to do with it. I start talking to my friends
and my family; I’m a complete neophyte
in this world of philanthropy, I really don’t know what I’m doing. I thought that I wanted to do something
that showed the connectivity, I knew that I wanted to do
some kind of good. It amazes me that people
think of a do-gooder as an insult, that always blows my mind. I knew that I wanted to raise money,
I knew that this couldn’t be my main job because I’m a very busy guy so I was talking to somebody
at the charity thing that I was doing, and he said, “You should talk
to this guy who knows another guy; you should check out this thing
called ‘Network for Good.'” I go on to Network for Good, and I realize, much to my chagrin, that they are doing exactly
what it was that I wanted to do. And of course, I was so naive to think
that I was having some great, new idea. I thought I was going to be some kind of do-gooder,
Internet star, or something like that. This is the digital age; and ideas are just bursting
like fireworks on the 4th of July. But I figured that I would call this guy,
Bill Strathmann from Network for Good and just reach out to him
and see if he could help me. Much to my surprise, they were actually interested
in partnering. He saw me more as an opportunity
than as some kind of competition. And I come from the dog-eat-dog world
of show business, man, it’s like every man for himself, getting parts or movies,
and [being] number one and all that stuff. But in philanthropy, it just seems to be
a little bit more partnering, and of course,
that’s the way it should be. So we started to shape this idea
of what could be. We decided that we really wanted
to make it celebrity-based. And then I thought about uggs, those goofy boots. So actresses don’t like to wear
their shoes from the trailer to the set. I love actresses – I’m married to one –
but sometimes, they are a little delicate. They don’t want to get their toes wet
or slip on the heels so the costumers give them
these silly boots to wear. They walk from the trailer to the set,
the paparazzi are there, – click, click, click!-
they take the pictures, goes in the magazines, women all over
the world start dressing like Eskimos. (Laughter) So I thought, “Is there a way
to apply that to charity? If people are going to buy something
because a star uses it, what about donating to something
that a star cares about? So we decided to become
the celebrity face of Network for Good. Around that time,
we were going to Sundance, and I figured that’s going to be
the perfect place to try to sign up
famous people for our site. We go out there, we bring some T-shirts,
and some buttons, and we set up a booth. I walk up to all these celebrities;
everyone is very, very happy. Here is the thing: being famous is great.
I mean, I wouldn’t trade it for the world. All day long, people are nice to me
for absolutely no reason. (Laughter) But usually, people
want something from you. So I wanted to not be the guy who was going to try
to take something from these celebrities. Sure enough, you come up,
“How are you doin’?”, hug-hug, kiss-kiss. “Listen, this is what I need from you:
I need your picture, and I need to know what causes you support
and I need you to sign this form.” And I can see that sometimes,
it’s this subtle shift in people’s eyes because all of a sudden, I went from being a colleague
to being the guy that wanted something. But that was cool; sometimes, they’d say,
“Well, you have to talk to my assistant”. I was totally great with that. We left Sundance,
signed up a bunch of celebrities, and felt really, really good
about what we had done. We created these badges,
they are like floating websites. You could attach them to blogs,
you could attach them to e-mails. And on those badges, there was a picture of the celebrity
and the cause that they supported, and you could click on a “Donate,” and there was a ticker that kept a tally
of all the money that was rolling in. I left Sundance, man, and I was like,
“That’s it, I planted the seed. I’m just going to sit back
and watch the dough roll in.” Not so fast. What we found was that people
want to to smell like a famous person or wear a watch
if the guy’s tough in the movie, and you want to wear that same watch, but when it comes to charity,
it’s a much more personal thing. It’s more of a connection between family, and friends,
and things that you care about, that have affected you
deeply and personally. Animals are
very, very important to people. because you care about them. So we put these badges up there, and there was some initial traffic but there wasn’t really
that much rolling in. The tickers weren’t really turning,
and I was embarrassed, and I felt, frankly, like a failure. Then we were on a conference call,
and someone said, “Hey, how about if regular people can
become celebrities for their own causes?” And I thought, “Well, that’s a cool idea. What if people can create their own badges
and put them right up there next to someone that they admire,
that is recognizable?” To kick this idea off, we offered six 10,000 dollar grants to the six people who could get
the most number of donations. And this is important; not the most money donated
to their causes, but the most number of people donating. And the reason we did that was we felt that the connectivity and the exponential
spread of the idea of giving was just as important
as the dollars and cents. Well, the results of that
were really stunning. A couple of examples –
a woman is diagnosed with MS; she’s in a hospital,
in a waiting room or something, sees us talking about
in this challenge on television. She’s like a triathlete, like a really energetic person;
that takes all that energy and all that fear and sadness
that she had surrounding this illness and puts it into raising money
for MS research. Another woman has a son who is autistic; takes this challenge up, reaches out
to so many people in her community – thousands and thousands of people –
and not only raises money but spreads the idea from personal
experiences of her experience with autism. Later on down the road, we got
some corporate sponsors who helped us out, and we did subsequent challenges. All of those have been
extremely successful. A couple of years ago,
we went back to Sundance, we launched something called Good Cards. A good card is a gift card
you give somebody for say, 10 dollars, 20 dollars,
50 dollars, whatever. You take that card home
after you received it, you think about it, and you decide what you want to do with that money
and where you want to put it. It feels great two or three times over: I feel good giving it to you,
you feel good using it. It’s a win-win situation. We are trying to reach out now
to college students, we are looking for the next big idea. Believe me, if anybody has
the next big idea, let me know. We’re constantly, constantly trying
to shift it and change it. When we started Six Degrees,
it’s not that many years ago, it’s going so fast, nobody knew
what a hashtag was. And Facebook was
just for hooking up really. (Laughter) We are trying to stay
ahead of the curve if we possibly can; I’ve learned so much,
and I’m constantly learning, but I do know that I’m no genius
when it comes to web-based ideas. I do know you can’t just plant
the seed and walk away, you have to be willing
to water it, to fertilize it; if need be, you have to go out
and buy it a grow lamp. And most importantly, if you take me
out of the Six Degrees idea, it really is a beautiful concept
because we really are all connected. The things that we do
here, now, on our block affect people
on the other side of the world, and they affect people
on the other side of town. The Internet is the most powerful example
of the connectivity of people; we created it. I believe we created it
so that we could stay connected; and I think we have to keep thinking about ways that we can use it
as a force for good. Thanks. (Applause)


  1. The first time I saw him was in the invisible guy movie…I hated this guy. That's just how great of an actor he is.

  2. If anyone ever questions Kevin Bacon's acting ability, please go watch the film Sleepers (1995). I honestly didn't think much of
    Bacon as an actor until I saw that film. Wow. He is completely terrifying and despicable yet totally compelling to watch.

    He is on a very LONG list of actors/actresses deserving of an Academy Award yet does not have one.

  3. Anybody remember when Jamie was pregnant on Mad About You? They referenced this game when Jamie told a woman in the elevator she was pregnant. This was awful because Paul and Jamie's family were the last to know.

  4. What's amazing is Kevin didn't realize what an absolute compliment was being paid to him with the creation of the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon game. The first time I heard of it I was like WOW what an awesome concept and what an awesome actor! It means your work is so prolific and vast that you can be connected to any other actor as well as lots of famous people who are non-actors. Plus it was just a lot of fun to play. I was shocked when I first heard he was pissed off about it. No, it's a gift! A compliment on your extraordinary work! And it's been going for 25 years now.

  5. Let's see… Intelligent, a Thinker, compassionate AND passionate, handsome… Yep, I can definitely see what Ms. Sedgwick saw in you. 😚

  6. Really interesting that he doesn't consider himself one of the "greats" in the acting world. He is one of the most believable actors and has been for years. I saw "Sleepers" on opening night and couldn't watch another Kevin Bacon film for a decade, his performance was so chilling.

  7. Kevin Bacon has starred in some of the most influential films in cinema history. Ingrained into our popular culture forever, Bacon's films span every genre of the human condition.

    I thought that was Robert De Niro. Then again, the Robert De Niro Effect doesnt sound that classy.

  8. My three degrees is that When I was 5, my dad and I were on a line for a rollercoaster at a fair in New Jersey and Kevin bacon is next to us. That’s about it

  9. Now the 6 degrees goes into the scientific community… Kevin Bacon might be God. Awesome talk from a wonderful person

  10. I’m sure I must only be one degree away – I’ve not met Kevin but I’ve met almost everyone else in the world. Someone I’ve met must have met him lol

  11. I loved playing that game growing up! Kevin Bacon, you are no lightweight; you are a beloved Hollywood icon! Thank you for all the memories 🧡

  12. Does watching this through YouTube make me a #2, Kev? Hey, what do you think, bud? I think so, eh? Yeah. Say Kev, If I'm 6 degrees connected to both Warren and Jimmy Buffet where's my Trust Fund check and Margaritas? Huh dude? 😐  …. ahh, Just knowing I might be 6 degrees connected to Halle Barry has made my life better. Thank you, Kevin's cousin. Oh hey, cuz, Kevin and I are new #2's together, cool, hey, umm so that means you and I are like #3's buddy! Alright! ….

    Hmm, I did not even know I was a comic, I just wanted to tell Kevin I had the next best idea if he was still looking. Strange. … No seriously, Sir… Bacon. (sorry, couldn't resist) Truth is, I have a new 'next best idea' pretty much on a daily basis, I require an outlet for which to deposit them all in that will manage them through 6 degrees of the free market and re-deposit them into my bank account. Currently, sadly, most flounder helplessly under my oppressive and indirect course of neglect.

  13. ca. 2477 – Southern Canada (present day Los Angeles) – While digging out a gopher hole a child from a tribe of hunters and gatherers finds an ancient book

    ca. 2494 – The 6 Degree fundamentalists start a revolt to depose the 6 Degree Progressives Regent who currently holds the Holy Throne of Bacon, because he is threatening to disavow the 4th Degree connectionship treaties with the beloved Combarriuf Sky Hounds on questionable grounds of ancient alien DNA found in the bloodlines of the Quicksilver Dynasty, a Combarriuf Power Family. Some claim it to be the divine DNA of our Lord Bacon, himself.

    ca. 2495 – the human race extinction can be connected through only 6 degrees to the 'TED notes, a booklet of stapled papers' bestowed to the child Zot in 2477, by Lord Bacon on Mt. Animal With Tall Things On Head

  14. I’ve always enjoyed Kevin Bacon’s acting roles, he is such a relatable soul.
    It is inspiring to see him take that step, effort and reach to further good in the world.
    It can be uncomfortably awkward to step outside of our comfort zone, ask for help, to help end suffering for ourselves or others that we may never know. That is a super hero with a invisible cap! I love me some bacon! So that is my far reaching 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon!

  15. It is not the funding but the mindset that we need to be targeting Kevin Bacon. No amount of money can feed addictions that never cure, nor can it salvage the damaged soul.

  16. I was genuinely disappointed, meaning, not for the sake of it. Given his experiences, the opportunities of being exposed to other writers, his experiences collaborating with other talented people… this is what he wanted to share.

  17. I remember 6° of Kevin Bacon when it came out thought it was so cool. Love Kevin bacon. Always impressed by him and his humor and talent. Gonna check out the site. ps: Dad loves Paul Newman salad dressing (charitable deed). Go Kevin and thank you.❤️

  18. 🤔 I really couldn't understand the audience's reaction, or lack thereof. I thought it was charming, funny at times and a great topic based on pop culture. The audience didn't laugh, I don't know if they saw this is Kevin patting himself on the back. And also the amount of thumb downs this video got was a little amazing too.

  19. I attempted suicide 20 plus years ago. Carbon monoxide and a full bottle of sleeping pills. took me years to recover from this attempt. I am not in my mid 40s.

  20. I always wondered if I was an Extraterrestrial as I can’t repeat a conversation verbatim . I need to read from notes too although I don’t make speeches I am more of a listener Mr Bacon I salute you and you are one of my and my family’s favorite Actors! Blessings Be to you and your loved ones 👍💕🌹🦋🌈👵🏻😎🐶🕊🦃🎄❤️

  21. In a small secluded recording studio in Wimbledon (RG Jones) – I once met Charlie Chaplin's piano player (Chaplin was credited with a song that was actually written and composed by his accomplice) .. here are the 'connections' > in 1931 at the gala premiere of City Lights (a film directed by Chaplin), Albert Einstein and his wife were the guests of honour on January 30th at the Los Angeles Theatre.

    Einstein's circle of contemporaries included Max Planck (a German theoretical physicist), who also had connections with other notable physicists of the time > Helmholtz, Kirchoff, Schrödinger, > when Einstein came to England he met Churchill and also delivered a lecture at King's College London (my former college)

  22. Can you trust a guy, that spent an hour and a half to get his hair to look like he just got up and does not care about his hair?

  23. Its so nice to read a thread of comments that every one of them is positive. That is a testament to the love Kevin Bacon has for humanity. Thank you so much Kevin for shining such a bright light for everyone to follow. One love my friend.

  24. So he just happened to be on TV when they invented the game? I thought he was chosen because Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon rhymes with Six Degrees of Separation. 😮

  25. I do not feel connected watching this video as I'm probably not the connected audience he was talking to since I have no idea what he was talking about…though, I am connected in so many other ways! Hmm…stay connected!

  26. Use the game to show direct connections to those in desperate need, and oh btw Kevin Bacon. People will give more, care more if they feel the connections directly.

  27. Don't sell yourself so short you are Miles better & beyond Tom cruise I never watch Tom Cruise movies I can't stand him you are amazing funny just all-around great person million times full better than Tom Cruise XXXXOOOO LOVE YOU MMMOORRREEE 💜💜 💜

  28. I'm beginning to believe all the world is connected by six degrees.

    I had a friend and co-worker (now deceased) named Steve James. Steve once had a co-worker named Stephan Tchividjian, Sr. (also now deceased). Stephan was the son-in-law of the late Rev. Billy Graham. Dr. Graham was a counselor to President Ronald Reagan. Reagan worked with Eddie Albert in "The Young Doctors" (1961). Albert worked with Kevin Bacon in "The Big Picture" (1989). My bacon number is 6.

  29. "I'm in the middle of a movie, can't remember which one…"

    Yeah, Kevin, that is the reason the game exists. You did too many damn movies.

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